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June 28, 2011

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Audrey R

I totally agree with veteran teachers not having to reinforce certain rules because kids won't try to work around them (I call it the "teenager loophole" when I joke about it with my kids).
At any rate, I think that it has a lot with how you present yourself to your kids. If you truly believe that you are in charge and carry yourself that way, kids know...and respect it. Kids want adults who don't engage in power struggles. While there is room for negotiation in some areas, there are some things that are non-negotiable and kids can tell right away.

Lisa Smith

I absolutely agree with your comments. Having been in the teaching profession for 24 years now, I have also established, now unspoken rules, and kids abide by them because I uttered them or live by them. In schools these days though, I find that the people in "positions" tend to bend your rules and rules get watered down in order to placate pupils and parents. We are fighting for numbers and posts and therefore the discipline and weight of our words are being disregarded. The tail is continually wagging the dog now... What a shame.

BB

Your blog post reminded me of Doug Lemov's Teach Like A Champion. This is a great read, like your blog, that explains how teachers can always build momentum while reinforcing classroom norms.

T T

And words have even more power when you select the rights ones for your students: http://whatiswrongwitheducation.blogspot.com/2011/05/lessons-learned-power-of-words-love.html

Cossondra George

Great thoughts, as always, Ariel. As a 'veteran' teacher, I seldom go over the rules. It is unnecessary because I am confident and comfortable in their solidity. However, I have seen novice teachers write horrendous rules they cannot and will not enforce. These are the classrooms where chaos ensues. Students know, students understand, and students test the waters they know where they have a chance of winning.

sc

Perhaps you don't enforce the rule because you don't really want it. You seem fine with students calling out or you wouldn't accept it.

mrsefird

I really enjoyed reading this...your words have so much power. Not only for discipline but also if you promise a reward and then it does not come to fruition because of time/money/other you lose that brick in your student teacher trust foundation. I liked the idea of limiting the bell to only transitions. I have also found myself tempted to use my bell for quieting the students down and you are right it will lose it's power. Thanks for the thought provoking post

Kimberly Efird

I wanted to add that I am taking grad classes and in our psychology class we talked about how we condition our students behavior not only with our words but also our actions. I think that we definitely need to remain mindful of this in our everyday interactions with students and colleagues. Love the blog!

Mrs. Miller

I enjoyed reading your comments. I also tried a similar transition idea only using music instead of an object like the bell. We talked about this in my master's psychology class last semester. It is a great way without using words to "train" the children.
I love the quote "it's not about me." Novice teachers have so many ideas and things to worry about and sometimes words are used that can't be backed up. Novice teachers eventually grow and gain a better understanding of procedures within their classrooms. It was the same for all of us and words of wisdom do come with time and through great leaders (mentors) in our schools.
To answer your question about when did it "crystalize" for me. I really had never thought about it, but since entering the Master's program I've been able to have a better understanding and research based explanations for the things I've chosen to use in my classroom. So for me this program has helped me to better understand the "why."
Novice teachers need our modeling and consistency to help them grow and gain the wisdom.
Thanks for sharing the article.

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I LOVE Jacqueline Woodson! I did a lesson on If You Come Softly for my National Board Certification. Great post that I'll share with teachers - it's full of ideas for facilitating guest speaker visits! Thanks.

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susan

Ariel,

I love your bell story and am adding it to my resources for new teachers because you point out that disciplining yourself as the teacher leads to good discipline in your classroom.

And I had to smile because I use my desk bell (it's the old fashioned front desk summons bell)in a completely opposite way. Because I teach Family and Consumer Science, the noise level can get quite high. The bell means I can get everyone's attention without shrieking over the noise level of 27 kids working in three kitchens and at five computer work stations all at the same time. The bell means, "Right now I'm talking to all of you, so stop for just a minute and then you can go back to work."

Consistency matters! There's also something to be said here about the legendary third year barrier.

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    Ariel Sacks teaches eighth grade English at a middle school in Brooklyn, NY. She has published articles about her work in Teacher Magazine and is a co-author of the new book Teaching 2030.

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