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December 31, 2008

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Josie

Thanks for the post Nancy. Legends in their own minds capable of curing what ails schools in a single bound.

A lot of earnest well-meaning kids out to improve the world but not (yet)education experts. I would hate to see them used in the war against the actual reform of public education.

Interesting observation on the class issue too.

Melissa B.

I think I've complained about this before, but I think education needs to get rid of all the "crap"-ie, non-essential management (you could fire almost everyone in our central administration,save a bundle, and not miss them at all)-before we can focus on many of the problems at hand. Have a Happy 2009!

John D

I don't think it's an either or proposition. We need to listen to beginning teachers and experienced teachers. And, like it or not, we need to listen to recruits from the top third of college graduates to understand why we are unable to attract more of them to the teaching profession. We are fond of making international comparisons, but we don't want to address the fact that in countries where teaching is more respected, they draw from the pool of top college grads.

It's also worth noting that TFA has been around for 18 years now, and about a third of their alumni are teaching. That means that many of their teacher alumni are experienced teacherds, and some probably are also National Board Certified.

Maybe the real issue is that the National Board needs to do a better job of explaining to the media how NBCTs lead to better student outcomes?

Nancy Flanagan

Thanks to everyone for your comments. John, I agree with everything you wrote. The argument here has to do with media attraction to, even fawning over, a relatively small group of temporary teachers, assigning them influence and even wisdom--while ignoring the informed perspectives of accomplished veteran teachers.

One of the best teachers I know started as a TFA corps member in Houston, and is now teaching reading in my rural/sub-suburban school. She no longer sees herself as "TFA" although she did her two-year stint, because she is now a mainstream career teacher. She had zero interest in being a teacher until she actually tried it, and freely admits her tenure in Houston was pretty much disastrous. She got an advanced degree in childhood literacy, something she considered "beneath" her potential as a newly minted B.A.. She is the kind of person I would like to see as a result of lateral-entry programs like TFA.

I completely concur that NBPTS has done almost nothing to promote genuine leadership opportunities for its "corps members." One of NBPTS' original missions was to use the expertise of NBCTs to effect educational reform. It's much harder to do that than create standards or administer an assessment. In our report, we urged NBCTs not to wait for NBPTS to "elevate" their voices, but to reach for leadership opportunities themselves.

Including blogging, of course. If the media doesn't come to you--create your own outlet.

Thanks everyone.

Melissa B.

BTW, I've got 2 other things on my mind today. First off, don't forget Sx3 tomorrow...it's a stitch! And I've got a pretty good chance of snagging a superior blog award...thanking you in advance for your support!

julie

How many TFAs are NBPTS cert.? I bet you would be pleasantly surprised. We work our tails off as well.

I think the 2 groups overlap more than you might think. We all are one in the same. I know there are others that need a swift kick. I do not think it is the hardworking, humble TFAs that I know. Let's just celebrate OBAMA. Can you imagine otherwise?

Nancy Flanagan

Hi Julie. Thanks for commenting. If you read carefully through what I wrote (both the blog posts and the comments), it should be clear that I believe TFA and other "Fellows" program teachers are far less unified in their beliefs than Richard Whitmire indicates. Many of them, after working in actual schools, become articulate and persuasive advocates for productive change.

I admire and encourage all young teachers who think deeply and write about their practice and what they learn, working in challenging schools. And I'm sure that there are a number of TFA corps members who have achieved National Board Certification--they would certainly be great candidates.

My point was that there are demonstrably excellent teachers who are committed to teaching and education over the long haul--and their voices are not often heard. We cannot build an effective teaching force unless we bring the best possible teaching candidates into the profession, and keep them in the classroom long enough to develop working teams. It is the voices of the experts we should be listening to first.

J.M. Holland

"And—this is the foundation for my argument—nobody would pursue National Board Certification unless they were absolutely committed to a long-term career in teaching and education reform."

Nancy, statement really struck a chord for me. If becoming NBC teacher meant having a loud voice in policy then TFA's might consider staying. Well intentioned but inexperienced TFAers have a very loud voice. It is a joy to be young and expert. If your credibility is derived from being smart enough not to teach forever then you get policies that don't have the longevity of a career teacher that might actually work. Personally I think that TFA should be a five year commitment like the one in Miami for early childhood teachers.
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Nancy Flanagan

Exactly, John.

When do we start building the professional, expert teaching force we need to make long-term fixes? I'm all for recruiting "best and brightest" types, as long as they're willing to commit to education (including direct contact with the classroom) for a period of time.

I am NOT endorsing the 30-year teaching career--which is also part of the problem with the way we see teaching. I am saying that the classroom is where change really happens, and when we put layers between actually teaching and policy-making, it's a disservice.

Thanks for stopping by.

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