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March 13, 2010

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Claus

Renee, does it make sense to distinguish between the phrase "all children can learn" and the phrase "all children will learn?"

I sometimes wonder whether the 100% proficiency targets by 2014 may have done more harm than good to teacher expectations for their students. Did people get more defensive? Did their belief that total success was impossible help them justify damaging beliefs that some students can't learn to high levels?

I would like to see a future where many, many more students achieve high levels of academic success, and where a child's chance of success has nothing to do with family income, race or zip code.

ted nellen

When I first heard this Ron Edmonds quote, "All children can learn," it was a no brainer for me. I agreed. Now the rub may be they may not learn what we want them to learn or how we want them to learn, but they do learn.

This is so in our face as we examine technology. Who is doing the learning in this area and who needs to be taught or is unwilling to learn? Children learn technology and it's the adults who can't seem to learn or even be taught.

So if we start on the premise, as we should, "that all students can learn," we would be wise to help them learn on their terms and in their own way if we hope for them to become good citizens. Otherwise if we continue on this notion that they should be taught we will continue to see our educational policy and results to repeat the past.

TeachMoore

Thank you both for your thoughtful comments. Claus, I do agree that the demands of misguided NCLB implementation may have had a negative affect on the expectations of some teachers, it also flushed out the racism and classism of others. Sometimes these low expectations are cloaked in a well-meaning paternalism, but that doesn't make them any less destructive.

I think Ted has it right: we, educators, have to be willing to meet students where they really are and help them learn in ways that are meaningful to them, not just those that we value. Particularly when dealing with students of color or poverty, what we sometimes label as an inability to learn is more accurately a resistance to a hypocritical educational system. We say all students are important, but our methods and allocation of resources shout something very different.

Clix

Ms. Moore, I got here from a link from Bill Ferriter's blog. I think my issue with the statement "all students have the ability to succeed academically" is that it is soooo vague.

Teachers who are ... let's say less optimistic about that statement probably see social and cultural situations as an obstacle, rather than an aid, to academic success. Maybe if it were stated that "all students have the ability to succeed academically if given the support they need," more teachers would agree.

Also? How are we defining academic success? If a student in tenth grade progresses from a third-grade reading level to a sixth-grade reading level, is that academic success? Teachers who feel the pressure of AYP test scores (and there are more of those than ever) are probably more likely to say no, that academic success is measured by whether or not a student passes The Test. And in those cases, when students enter a course woefully underprepared, it is unreasonable simply to tell them that they are expected to do well on The Test. I think this is part of why secondary teachers are more likely to say no - as students are "passed" along from teacher to teacher, fewer of them are truly prepared.

TeachMoore

Clix,
I like your suggested revision of the phrase; particularly, in light of what Bill has pointed out on his blog.

How we define academic success has everything to do with this discussion. Not just in reference to standardized testing, but the last point you mention about students being "passed along" references our archaic system of grade levels and the notion that students must know certain things by certain ages or deadlines. I reject the concept of dividing curriculum objectives into grade/age levels. This is the source of much unnecessary frustration for teachers and students. Curriculum should be divided (if it must be for practical purposes) into academically valid and coherent units, through which students should progress as they are ready. Teachers could (but not necessarily) specialize in various aspects or units in the curriculum, and those students who are ready for those portions are the ones I would teach. Does that make sense to anybody?

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