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June 07, 2008

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tarvin

I taught 9th graders this semester, and quickly realized that we needed more structure. It's interesting that the teams I came up with are pretty similar to yours. We have content cops (which is missing for your list, maybe because 9th grade boys need more policing than middle schoolers?), linkers, discussion starters, and format artists (aka-captain spit-and-polish). I assigned them into teams, and then switched them every week or so. I think they need to learn how to do all of these things if they're going to be smart "21st century thinkers." It's scaffolding!

Fred Ravan

Great ideas. Although this year has barely ended, I am thinking about next year. I would like to use wikis more but, the assessment portion frightens me. I haae no experience with student created wikis, my students have no experience creating wikis for class and as such, I am hesitant to do. What does a good student wiki look like? What is a bad one? I would love to see a rubric, or examples of what students have created. fravan@breweredu.org

Bill Ferriter

Hey Fred,

Glad that you liked this post---and glad that you're thinking about tackling wikis next year!

They're definitely the most approachable Web 2.0 tool for both teachers and students.

I'd recommend that you check out the two links early in this post. Both might give you a bit of guidance in your efforts.

As far as what good classroom wikis look like, here are a few that I've stumbled on in my work that I think are pretty solid:

Horizon Project 2007
http://horizonproject.wikispaces.com/

Digiteen
http://digiteen.wikispaces.com/

British Romanticism
http://britishromanticism.wikispaces.com/

Hope these help,
Bill

Mark

Also, if you haven't check out http://www.WikiPatterns.com and http://www.WikiIndex.org for some more wiki goodness

http://www.aboutus.org/The_Wiki_Way

Best, Mark

Patrick

Bill,

As usual, we are sharing brains again. One of our teachers recently surveyed her students, much like you do, regarding wiki and blog use in their educational experience. The results were less than sunny for those of us who see potential in the area of social media in the classroom. What struck me about the student negativity towards technology in the survey was that the issues they describe as unfavorable (busy work, just another homework assignment, no point to the discussions, etc.) are all addressable by using something akin to the roles you describe.

What I would like to really know is how these roles, and other wiki-best practices can be honed and translated for teachers who are willing to try them. Keep churning out ideas like this one!

Mary Tedrow

Your wikis sound very much like any creative process where the end product is a single product produced by many. For instance, a school newspaper or yearbook produced by a staff must look, in the end, like a single publication. Everybody has to get their portion to fit the agreed upon style so it looks like "one" when they are done. The breakdown of the jobs in any group setting helps students see how the process works. Traditional teachers have to learn, like students must learn when creating a single product, that the process is messy and often takes much longer than the old stand and deliver method. The old saying is you don't want to see a newspaper or sausage being made. Our students - and many adults - don't understand what goes on behind the scenes of a polished finished product. It is messy, recursive, sometimes loud and rarely looks like the traditional classroom all in orderly rows. For someone just starting down this road in teaching it is very scary and often criticized by others. (You're not covering the curriculum. Your kids are having fun while we are getting REAL work done, etc.) And, when the product is finalized, everybody is a critic. (Very easy to criticize when all the heavy lifting has been done.) The challenge to teachers who begin to implement these kinds of projects is to know clearly what you are hoping the children will learn (in this case process) over the final product. It makes it a whole lot easier to explain to the administrator, parent, or colleague why your room doesn't look like theirs. In assessing what the kids produce - something I always consider the least of what went on - remember to look for the donut and not the hole. What new skills did they acquire? What kind of thinking is exhibited? rather than an emphasis on correctness. If something goes public and begins to draw in commentary, the kids will insist on correctness. Just like most adults, they don't want to be embarrassed. (Your Spelling cop, after the first go round, will be the most popular kid in the group if you do a repeat project.) Also, let the kids tell you what they learned about how they achieved the final product. I like to include a reflective writing so they can tell me: what was the hardest part? what do you know about how you got your job done? what would you do differently if you had more time? what have you learned about technology? This kind of writing is really writing-to-self and helps the kids tell themselves (and reinforce) what they have gained from the project. These questions - my students tell me - ruin the fun for them because now they have to think (analyze) what they accomplished and how they did it. But, hey, that was my point in the assignment in the first place, so tough luck. Think about it so you can do it again the next time.

Pat

I like the responsibilities broken up like this. I think this would work for adults too! Unfortunately I created a wiki for a committee that I am chairman of but I couldn't get them to post anything. I finally ended up doing it all and asking them to look over it.Now I'm using your list of things as my own review checklist. Thanks!

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