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December 14, 2008

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ms_teacher

I firmly believe that teachers and our unions need to be at the forefront of this issue. We should not have our fingers stuck in our ears waiting for it to go away. I think that is one of the biggest reasons teacher unions have such a bad rap is because we are so opposed to any change that we fear may harm our members, even if some of them don't belong in the classroom in the first place!

Adam

Bill,
I read the same article and had the same reaction. If you could design a program that would adequately measure "highly effective" what would you do? What would the components be? How would you communicate this to the public?

Adam

Bill,
Check out this article by Malcolm Gladwell in The New Yorker. He has an interesting take on your post. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2008/12/15/081215fa_fact_gladwell

KJ

I love the quote "How do we determine the effectiveness of the Art teacher?" I think that the definition of teacher effectiveness and learning need to be redefined according to current brain research and long-term portfolio-style evaluations. These evaluations need to be completed by peers in our respective content areas. We need the public in general to understand that the business world model of "value added" does not apply to learning as we are beginning to understand it. It's like the art world- people with business backgrounds do not understand how it works; this is because it is filled with its own traditions, rules, customs and history. We cannot expect education as a field to be the same or measurable with the same tools as the business, art, science, or law fields. I'm not saying that learning cannot be measured- I'm saying that we need to research tools that will help us measure learning and the practice of teaching without attempting to squeeze education into models that are designed for OTHER professions.

cburell

Bill, Great arguments all the way through - and greater for the admission there are no easy answers.

I had a conversation last week about merit pay, and why I didn't believe in it. I said it pissed me off to no end that I _knew_ from all sorts of objective observations that I worked harder and more successfully than many of my colleagues, yet earned nothing more for it - BUT, until a system was implemented that could determine what we mean by 'merit,' and avoid causing all of us to teach to tests and thus damage student learning, I was still against it.

What's the best solution to this dilemma that you've thought or read?

Annie

Your post has me thiking about alternatives to teacher evaluation... you mention having someone come observe you to see that you're a good teacher.

It seems like the answer, doesn't it? It's just the implementation that is tough. If you only have one person judging, it seems unfair and subjective. Throw more people into the works and it gets too complicated.

I wonder if a collaborative tally of peer review, administrative review, union review and district evaluation is possible?

It just seems like people know who the ineffective teachers in their school are, but there's nothing anyone can do about it.

Maggie

I agree that pay-for-performance is not a bad thing at all. It's only bad if it's based on ONE test score. What about the teacher who motivates a student who is usually absent to start coming to school? What about the teacher who gets a student who never does any work to start doing SOME work? Ask anyone...the teacher they remember/admire/like most is usually connected to the relationship, not the content. These are the teachers who inspire as well as improve test scores.Somehow this piece of the "art" of teaching has to be included in pay-for-performance.

Natalie

I think this is overdue. Too many universities are turning out teachers that should not be members of our profession, in addition to the teachers that are holding out for their retirement. I get so sick of working with people that are mediocre and don't care for kids! If effectiveness determined their pay they may think twice before entering a classroom!

Alina Moran

For two decades I have been guiding students to soci-academic excellence quite successfully as a self-created educator. My students k-12 in three countries have excelled in and outside the classroom walls without sacrificing values and character. They hold prosperous careers which they deeply enjoy. I know this first hand because they continue to keep in touch over the years. In fact Mr. Gates met a few of my students studying in the Dominican Republic.
Unfortunately, I endured years of underpayments not to mention the unethical occurance this past May. After shining brightly as Lead 2nd Teacher for three years, the Headmaster refused to renew my contract without reason or explanation. The teachers hired to replace me have BA's and Masters yet are lacking in so many ways... They are unable to read or write correctly. They lack knowledge of their culture and have no exposue to foreign cultures. They are unable to perceive students'strenghts and areas in need of improvement. They haven't a clue about motivation which hinders engaging the children proactively in learning experiences.
It is very sad and troubling that educators aren't reviewed and validated based on their students'performances and on their wisdom and ability to use it to engage students in this cooperative/global, self discovery experience I'll call learning XXI.
Fondly,
Alina Morán

John Ferriter

Bill,
It seems to me that I'm seeing an awful lot of comments from highly effective teachers who are readily willing to complain about the current state of affairs while at the same time unwilling or unable to do anything about it. People like Ms. Moran should never have to suffer the indignity of an administrator like the one who threw her under the bus. What I don't get, however is why all these good people don't get together and define highly effective for the rest of us. Surely if anyone can do it.. this group could; Don't you think?

John Ferriter Sr

just to differentiate... both comments are from Sr.

mratzel

Like you, Bill, I long for the days when how well we teach will be the measuring stick for our compensation. It seems to me that the impending economic crisis could be the moving force behind reform.

I just read a quote not too long ago that talked about when our memories exceed our dreams, then we've lost our way and are doomed to repeat history. So much of our inaction is because constituencies try to protect the status quo.

What if we stop thinking about a system that is structured as it has always been structured? What if our system, for example, allowed "time" not to be the constant variable....what kinds of reform could we create and what kinds of compensation would be appropriate for those forms of teaching?

Maybe we've not only outgrown our compensation system but our mode of delivering education to students.

Phil

I am a teacher who is big on merit pay, have been following Bill Gates' desire to change education for a while now. It is a powerful statement when he calls many teacher education programs "irrelevant".

The problem with this blog is it leaves with more questions than answers. If I have read one educational article that does this, then I have read 100.

Real change will happen when teachers are held accountable (like most other professions by the way). This means getting the unions out of education.

While this sounds all bad, good teachers like the "Tempered Radical" will get a nice pay increase. I imagine every parent will want their child in his class. I teacher computers at the middle school level. I love it when students ask me if they have me next semester. I am good at what I do. I hold myself accountable. Now if I could get paid like a teach...nope, unions won't let me do that.

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