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June 24, 2009

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Tom

Makes sense to me.

Seems like we keep trying to over simplify things. Some things are hard and require a lot of work, time, effort and money to do right. We too often opt not to do the hard work and choose another easier route which creates an illusion of the information what we really want.

I see that on a lot of levels in our society. We create overly simplified models which we pretend are guiding our actions. Basically, if you look at Taleb's The Black Swan you'll see his far better explanation of how these conceptual errors create some really stupid actions and gross errors in over confidence. I think education is headed in the same direction as our banks have because of the reliance on data that is iffy at best.

Even if you believe in standardized testing as an accurate measure you've got to look at how states, counties and schools are doing everything possible to twist and manipulate both the data and the tests. It's a mess.

K. Borden

Mr. Ferriter said:
“I think we've moved beyond using standardized tests for diagnosis in our country. Instead, standardized tests have become our primary tool for evaluation and accountability----of students, of teachers and of schools.”

The word diagnosis troubles me when applied to the standardized tests given to students for NCLB compliance. As stated on NC’s End of Grade (EOG) website, “The North Carolina End-of-Grade Tests are designed to measure student performance on the goals, objectives, and grade-level competencies specified in the North Carolina Standard Course of Study.”

A diagnosis seeks to determine causes, or the nature, of a condition via signs and symptoms. These tests measure some of the signs and symptoms, but for individual students, they cannot take the next step and engage in comparing otherwise available information/data or seeking additional data/information to determine causes of existing conditions.

For groups of students these tests may reveal trends, but again they can’t alone answer the cause. For example, is the reason all students in a given class answered question x incorrectly because they never covered the goal, objective or competence as a class or some other reason entirely.

This is where the fault in using them as an exclusive measure to determine teacher performance, school performance and individual student performance rests. Alone they highlight signs or symptoms, but not causes or conditions.

Mr. Ferriter, what was the rest of the story? What was the answer to the parent’s question? "That's all great, but what does the test say?" How far apart were the test results from your assessment of the student?

Does the Danish system use the results of the oral exams administered in 10th grade to determine the performance of the school, the teachers and the student? If so, how do they begin to ferret out which school and which teacher possibly contributed to what result?

When we are talking about what is best for individual student assessment, are we required to link that to what is best to hold schools and teachers accountable for their performance in the exchange that is education? Is it wise to do so? How would a alternative method for measuring teacher and school performance operate?

Dave

In consumer studies, there's an idea that a person will be reluctant to buy an item at one store if they think they can get it cheaper somewhere else.

I think this is happening with trust in professionals because of the smaller, more connected world the Internet has enabled. A parent may be reluctant to trust a teacher's professional opinion if they believe it might be possible for them to find and contact a Teacher of the Year and get their opinion.

There's also an element of going with the known evil: parents know that tests don't measure everything, so they feel they can accurately weigh the importance of the test results. It's can be hard for a parent to spot unique quirks a teacher has, which is an obstacle to the parent's trust, so it's harder to weigh the data provided in a teacher opinion.

Trusting the teacher's opinion can be scary: what if the teacher says your student isn't doing well? When it's a test, you can just say it's not measuring the areas the student excels at...but you can't really dismiss or deflect an opinion like that from a good teacher, and that can be a tough pill to swallow.

To get past all of these, teachers really need to be expert communicators who are very in-tune with parents and mindful of whether they present the appearance of a trust-worthy person who has sensible solutions to helping students.

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