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October 03, 2009

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Joel Zehring

I wish I had taken more statistics in high school and college. Calculus has proved virtually useless for me in my sixth grade classroom.

Arthur Benjamin agrees: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BhMKmovNjvc

The word "data" has been dragged through the mud recently. It's been politicized to mean multiple choice test scores.

I'm really fortunate to work for a principal who recognizes the importance of quantitative and qualitative data. He encourages us to leverage multiple choice test scores, and he also encourages us to share our observations made "in the trenches". He encourages teachers to observe each other and students in other classrooms to find objective evidence that will lead to student achievement.

michelle

"teachers MUST do their own data collection, manipulation and analysis" is definitely the attitude at my school. Recently we were given a ton of school wide data to analyze as a department. Now I think the math dept and the science dept were probably successful however from conversations with other teachers the electives and english just floundered around not really knowing what to do. There are good people capable of this in every school who would be able to put it in language that we can all understand and use.

TeachMoore

Tad Sherman (and you, Bill) make a great point about how the division of labor or rather the colLABORation within a school should work. There is certainly some information about student performance that can only be gathered at the classroom level. That needs to be paired with other forms to get a more complete picture of each student's strengths and needs. Also, as a classroom teacher, I was often given standardized test data that was of no use in actually helping students or in adjusting my instruction. In that case, we were able to explain the problem and got support to do other more appropriate assessments. It was the teamwork that made the difference for the students and the teachers.

Mike Fisher

Bill,

I read both of your posts, and am impressed at the level that you let data inform your instructional decisions. You are most definitely in the minority and in fact, data is one of the first places I start in a lot of the workshops I do...

I think it would be a great idea for admins to pre-sort the data, but not totally scrub it--teachers need to understand a little of the deconstruction process, especially as it relates to trends over time and identified gaps.

Additionally, you mentioned that the Blue Diamond software doesn't dig deeply enough to identify skills within objectives. I know the intention of your post was not to make people smile--but I did. It's rare in this day and age for teachers to understand how content and skills relate to standards and how aligned assessments need to be in place in order to gauge understanding and proficiency. It's something I struggle with in PD all the time. Many times, teachers do things only because they've always been done that way--but I hope the tide is turning and the paradigms are shifting!

Buy beyond the data--this post made me really think about how articulate teachers need to be lately about what they do. I think administrators need to be just as transparent about their responsibilities, and how they provide evidence for the actions that inform those responsibilities, in the same way you assess aligned content and skills. Hmmm...I smell my own blog post brewing...

PS. How's that baby? Hope you guys are sleeping! -Mike

Scott

Bill,

Great post. I've been working awhile to get at data to drive better decision-making, in education, health, and government, and make it more accessible via graphical displays. (www.SupportingEvidence.com)

I've recently been working with the Wing Institute (www.winginstitute.org) in Oakland, CA, on getting evidence-based education data out among education leaders. We won't have it published on their site for a few weeks, but one of the standouts is the value of 'rapid assessment' (of students, multiple times per week) in the classrooom, both from absolute improvement in student performance, but also in cost-effectiveness. So clearly, teachers need the tools and time to interpret the data and decide how to alter their teaching.

In the coming months, we'll be looking through more research material to see what else will help educators, parents, and policymakers deliver the best to the next generation.

Keep up the great work!

Scott Gibson
www.SupportingEvidence.com
'worth a thousand words'

Bob Heiny

Insightful post, Mr. Bill, and useful comments that are consistent with some instructional protocols designed to provide databased instructional decisions. Glad to see that you're exploring this approach more precisely.

Angela Stockman

Hmmm....I'm wondering if it's possible that teachers actually have access to DIFFERENT rather than LESS data, as compared to their administrative colleagues.

Isn't it important for teachers to capture data from classroom formative assessments as well? To clarify--I refer to assessment as a verb here, rather than a noun.

In my work, I'm finding that this data provides essential information....and without it....I'm not sure any amount of "scrubbing" will help us serve kids well.

Do you agree that data are more than what can be mined from a warehouse? And if so....isn't it important to communicate that message to those who are making data-driven decisions? It's my hunch that much of the data backlash has to do with misperceptions around what data truly are and the ways in which we can capture and making meaning from them.

It's been my experience that when we value the work of teachers and kids and encourage them to capture data during guided practice, instructional change and improvements in student performance follow in shorter measure. These measures can inform the others that you speak to here as well. In fact, many would say that they have to, in order to draw meaningful conclusions. Agree or no?

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