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LeeAnn

Thanks, Bill for the excellent summary of the study and an even better explanation of what it means for schools. Every teacher, principal, parent, and school board member needs to read your post. Didn't Daniel Pink also reference this study in his book Drive?

Karen janowski

Yes, This study was also highlighted in Drive.

Since there are so many incentive program happening in our schools, it is surprising that more studies aren't done in this area. My concern has always been, if we need to build in a reward, what message are we sending our students? Could it be we are communicating, this task is so awful, we have to give you a reason or incentive to do it?

No matter what our educational decisions, it is vital we consider the unintended consequences. There are often unanticipated ones.

Twilliamson15

Agree that indiscriminate implementation of these programs (and most any others) is detrimental. I also think the long-term impact of such programs calls them into question. However, what about districts which use AR (specifically) as a diagnostic tool? In our school, at least, there are no "rewards" for reading a certain number of books per year. AR is used as a method of calculating a student's target reading level. Students then have a range of reading levels to select from and test on. Our Language Arts teacher requires that our students read two books within their AR range per 9 weeks, and are then free to choose other books outside of their reading level. We have to recognize that there are appropriate and inappropriate uses of every marketed classroom tool. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on Cognitive Surplus as well, I started it, but got sidetracked by several other books, including something about Teaching the iGeneration :)

Mike Kaechele

Great post Bill! I am definitely sharing this with my administration. My question is how does grading relate to this topic? I try to de-emphasize grades in my classroom but they seem to work as incentives that some students care about and others ignore. I see many parallels to this topic.

Anna T. Baumgartner

Thank you!! I also have been looking out for hard data to support my gut feeling on monetary awards/fines. It is just so tempting because we teachers love to "make kids happy" and rewards are so much fun to give out. Maybe the following experience will also provide additional reasons to stay away from them, because as you point out, it's difficult or impossible to undo the effects of incentive systems.


Last year, one of the math teachers on our team founds some tiny dollar bill stickers and he really wanted to give them out as rewards for achieving learning objectives in math class. I had to admit they were some of the cutest stickers I've seen. :)

But during our team meeting, two other factors besides the ones you mentioned helped us stick to our decision to not give out any physical rewards:

1. When kids don't get the monetary or other physical reward from the teacher, they can ask their parents to buy it or something similar for them after school.

2. When students are rewarded for their performance, they expect more of the same kind of rewards the next time, but somehow it is never enough...a kind of addiction.


For an alternative to incentive programs, step-by-step goal setting for personal improvement where students chose their own goals and evaluated themselves periodically throughout each semester worked wonderfully for us. Teachers also guided students by pointing out evidence of their progress towards their personal goals from time to time. Their goals and self-reported progress were included on their report cards and sent home to parents. We saw some low-achieving students really turn around, and soon our students were visibly the happiest in the school as well, due to this and other positive changes made by the team.
After reading your post, it seems like the reason this had such a profound effect is that it humanized the relationship between student and teacher.


I also look forward to any comment you have on Mike's question about grading...I'm now mentoring a teacher in a school where every assignment is graded from the first week of Gr. 1 on up.

David B. Cohen

In addition to this study, Daniel Pink cites some other relevant studies in Drive. In a blood center, paying a small amount for donations also decreased the number of volunteers. Same conclusion - people are willing to do the right thing for the right reason, while adding money turns it into a transaction with a colder, impersonal cost/benefit analysis. In another study conducted in a laboratory, adults were asked to work on a problem solving challenge. Those who were volunteers or paid less would continue working on the challenge during "break" time, while those getting paid more would disengage from the task. The overall education conclusion should not be that teachers should volunteer instead of earning pay - not at all. These studies don't suggest that such huge considerations about personal and family livelihood work the same way. Rather, if you already have the teachers hired and paid, you can motivate them do great work through autonomy,mastery, and purpose. A minor monetary boost will be less effective at the outcomes we really (should) care about.

Bill Ferriter

Hey Guys,

Lots of good comments and ideas here. Thanks for taking the time to stop by!

I like all the mentions that you're making about Daniel Pink's Drive. While I haven't read it yet, Pink has written a ton lately about the fact that external motivators are not effective at driving change in knowledge-based organizations.

Specifically, he's come out against merit pay plans for teachers.

What drives me completely bonkers is that despite being one of the most intelligent and respected thinkers in America right now, his position on merit pay in education seems to have gone completely ignored by the current administration and folks like Michelle Rhee, Bill Gates and Oprah.

I don't get it.

As far as Mike's idea that grades act like an incentive, I couldn't agree more. I definitely think they have the same kinds of detrimental effects as any other kind of incentive---pizza parties, stickers, tickets---that schools choose to use.

Heck, I saw it in action this week: Our quarter is ending, so I'm encouraging students to rework assignments that they haven't yet demonstrated mastery on.

Less than 10% have taken any action, though---including the kinds of thoughtful students that I figured would be all over the opportunity.

When I asked one of my kids why he'd chosen not to rework anything, he told me that he'd done the math and figured out that reworking would result in a higher letter grade, so why bother.

The hitch in my room isn't that I'm hung up on grades. If I had my way, I'd give written narratives to kids on what they know and don't know. I'd have student led conferences where kids told their parents what they'd mastered and where they were struggling.

The hitch is convincing parents that grades aren't worth keeping. That's a shift that most communities will really struggle with. It takes the kinds of PR efforts and knowledge building that I don't have the time for as an individual teacher.

Any of this make sense?
Bill

PS: Know where our current system of letter grading----A, B, C, D----came from?

If not, go and look it up. It'll curl your toes.

Tess Ausman

Bill,

Another great post. I too have read Drive by Dan Pink and I also know about the cash and limo incentive. This is the "carrot" approach that Pink discusses - if you reward kids with money for getting good grades, eventually they will always expect money (that carrot) before they work for a good grade. I agree that my implementing incentives, schools are taking away rights that teachers have over students. When I was in the classroom many students would tell me that they were working hard because they enjoyed the class - and respected me. Thank you for this blog post!

Alex Trenton

Basically, if you’re planning on implementing any kinds of incentive programs in your building, you’re taking away the influence that your teachers once had over your students.

What if you're in one of the many schools where teachers don't have much influence over students in the first place? Such as one of the schools with a 50%+ dropout rate. External incentives are better than nothing, aren't they?

Bill Ferriter

Alex asked:
What if you're in one of the many schools where teachers don't have much influence over students in the first place?

This is a solid question, Alex.

I think my reply would be that any kind of external incentive programs need to be used on a case-by-case basis.

There are certainly kids in my career who would have responded to external incentives far more than to me. In those situations, I'd be willing to give incentive programs a whirl.

But those kids were always in the minority---especially when I worked to find motivating content that was appropriate for the age and skills of my students.

My beef is that these programs are never used selectively. Schools either use them for every student at every grade level or they don't.

Which means that we're always killing internal motivation in large handfuls of students.

And I'd go as far as to say as the consequences of those decisions are far more severe in the high poverty schools that you mention. In buildings where internal motivation is low and relationships are weak, they need to be tended gently and cultivated---much like you tend a new fire while you're trying to coax it to flame.

External incentive programs across an entire building aren't gentle tools by any means----and they'll erase ANY influence that teachers once had.

I'm not sure that would make challenging schools any easier to work in.

Does this make any sense?
Bill

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