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Lindsay Henry

You're preaching to the chior! My students this year have hd the opportunity to use iPads in the classroom and it has made a world of difference in quality, productivity, and interest in their writing... and yes grammar and spelling have improved too!! I'm going o try the 25 word story sometime! Thanks!

MariaDroujkova

What do you mean, teens don't see texting as a writing tool? My daughter and her friends spend a lot of time in chats related to writing:
- They discuss books they read and other media, TVtropes.org ideas they contributed, and how these ideas will go into the stories they write
- They beta and critique through chats
- They have whole roleplay worlds where they write in-character through chats and discuss their writing out of character, through chats again, for hours at a time
- They talk about writer retreats, coordinate classes, arrange their NaNoWriMo cafe meetings and do other logistics work, in chats
- They help one another with participation in larger writer communities, such as blogger groups or fanfic.net
- They share tools and apps that help, sites (e.g. mind-mapping) and other reference material

These kids are homeschooled and thus probably are more used to self-organizing. I have been observing this activity somewhat, and occasionally contributing an idea or two, but they built their whole writing personal learning network themselves, and it's been very effective over the years.

gasstationwithoutpumps

Spell checkers are useful tools, but you have to get students to care about spelling before they bother to use them. I see a lot of writing from college seniors and grad students where it is clear that they haven't bothered to spellcheck.

I also see a lot of writing (in newspapers as well as academic writing) where it is clear that the writers have done spell checks, but not bothered to check whether the right homophone was chosen.

Typos in chats, blog comments, and other rapid-writing contexts don't bother me. But the more chances there are to edit, the more I get irritated by sloppiness in the mechanics of writing.

Drdouggreen

Thanks for the excellent post. It should make teachers think. Why shouldn't we let kids use spell check in school when they can use it on the job? For short cuts to professional development for educators go to DrDougGreen.Com. Keep up the good work.

Bill Ferriter

Maria wrote:

My daughter and her friends spend a lot of time in chats related to
writing:
- They discuss books they read and other media, TVtropes.org ideas they
contributed, and how these ideas will go into the stories they write
- They beta and critique through chats
- They have whole roleplay worlds where they write in-character through
chats and discuss their writing out of character, through chats again,
for hours at a time

You know, Maria, your daughter and her friends are a perfect example of my third point because theyve created a specific purpose for their texting. They dont see texting as simply a tool for social communication---theyre using it for learning purposes, and it sounds like theyve designed these opportunities on their own, which is pretty cool in and of itself.

For teachers, theres a lesson here: When we show kids that texting can be something more than a tool for social communication, great things are possible.

I do think, though, that your daughter and her friends are unique. Most kids wouldnt automatically create the same kinds of opportunities for themselves without a bit of guidance from parents and/or teachers. Its not that they dont want to be learners---its that they dont always see the natural connections between the tools that they are using and the behaviors that define learners.

You seemed surprised by my assertion that most kids dont see texting as a forum for writing. Thats drawn from the hyperlinked Pew study, where 60% of teens surveyed said that they didnt see their texting as writing.

Hope this makes sense,
Bill

Terry Dassow

Resisting change is an impossible feat, so teachers have been right to utilize texting in a way that is useful to teenagers' ability to write standard English. There are so many components to writing well! Assigning students to write a 25 word story teaches them not only about the bare essentials to the plot of a story, but also how to be concise and eliminate wordiness.

Catina

Random thought: check out "Ode to a Spell Checker"-- poem with many misspellings that a spell checker wouldn't catch.

http://people.usd.edu/~bwjames/humor/spell.html

michelle h.

First, as the mom who sent you this email, you are so kind to have put this much thought into it.

Her father and I are still haggling over upgrading her to a model with spellcheck but you did come down on my side so I of course had to point him here. I check her texts messages every so often and the spelling is just so bad that it alarmed me she was developing worse habits by spelling poorly.

As you know, she's on twitter now and writing her 25 word stories which seem to really be fun to her. No stress since they are so short.

She's actually asked more about spelling words this week than every before - if she's tweeting people, she wants to get it right. So those are positives - not just the asking but the caring.

Turning Winds Page

The 25 word story sounds like a good exercise for my teen. I think it's just a matter of how you remind your children of the importance of grammar and spelling beyond texting that matters. It's reasonable if they do shortcuts with important messages to send because it's definitely the faster way to do it. But then, they should also learn how write them correctly when not texting. Check their spelling and grammar once in awhile, you might find if they're having trouble with the English subject or not.

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