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August 25, 2012

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Darcymullin

Bill, I appreciate your comments on this issue. The last couple of days have been interesting. I have gone from engaged to frustrated to angry and ultimately I just feel resigned. I too worry about the idea of blocking someone. The purpose (for me) of social media is to engage in conversation, but as you note conversation should be two way. Conversations that start with personal attacks go nowhere and make people defensive and have no place in any medium. I don't want to tweet or blog in an echo chamber, and I invite discourse, but it must be reasoned. Respect and humility should be a part of any conversation either online or face to face. I will continue to reflect on the issue. Thanks for sharing - quite courageous as you have opened yourself up for criticism. Take care.

Mindfulstew.wordpress.com

Bill,
I've been trying to figure out if Twitter is even worth my time. I don't have enough follows to feel like my stream is "polluted" at this time...
http://mindfulstew.wordpress.com/2012/08/23/notes-from-a-twitter-newbie/

Bill Ferriter

Darcy wrote:

Thanks for sharing - quite courageous as you have opened yourself up for criticism. Take care

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You know, Darcy, maybe I have opened myself up to criticism -- and maybe Im just a selfish son-of-a-gun -- but Im sick of the flawed notion that everyone deserves to stand on equal footing in MY learning stream.

That attitude is missing the point of new digital tools COMPLETELY. We can all customize our own learning streams now -- and that customization is empowering when we choose to use it.

Whats even more important to remember is that there are THOUSANDS of other voices out there to listen to. Blocking someone who you find harmful to your own learning doesnt mean you arent listening to differing opinions. It just means youre going to have to find another voice to fill that role in your own learning -- and given the nature of social spaces, that wont be hard at all.

Educators are such an egalitarian profession that we put our attention on everyone BESIDES ourselves when working in social spaces. Were worried about what it will look like when we exclude someone instead of about what it will mean for us if we continue to allow their ideas into our network even after theyve proven to be a poor fit for who we are and/or how we learn.

Any of this make sense?
Bill

Kelly Christopherson

Bill, if it is your learning stream, then you have the ability to prune and grow the stream as needed. I, too, have blocked people and unfollowed others - it's my learning and if the noise they are making gets in the way of others who I want to hear, then I have the ability to block. I'm not sure why it such a big deal when we make those decisions. In f2f situations, there are people whom I do not wish to spend time with for a number of reasons. I'm not rude but I don't expend energy to engage them for a variety of reasons. With all the voices that are available, not listening to one who, as it seems in this case, isn't a positive and isn't interested in dialogue, shouldn't be such a bad thing.

Bill Ferriter

Kelly wrote:

Im not sure why it such a big deal when we make those decisions. In
f2f situations, there are people whom I do not wish to spend time with
for a number of reasons.

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Well said, Kelly -- but the crazy part is that people get drilled in social spaces when they block, unfollow and/or dont follow people back. Theyre called snobs or elitists. Theyre accused of living in an echo chamber.

Thats the frustrating part of our profession....

Anyway...thanks for sharing...
Bill

Gcouros

Here is the funny thing about your post...I don't know if I agree with the idea of "flipping" and what it brings to the classroom or schools. My fear from it is that it is making people take their own personal time to do school stuff and REALLY pushing them to focus a lot on school being the most important thing, as opposed to our lives.

Here is the other thing...I have never done it so I don't really go out there and criticize it either. How could I? It would be the same as saying Physics is stupid; I have no idea about Physics but I know there is something good that comes out of it.

I remember a few years ago i was critical of people putting a "weekly email" on a blog because I had no idea why they would do something like that. But then I did it. And it was awesome. I in fact still do it this day with my "You Should Read" posts.

So from that experience, I have learned to ask questions and think critically about initiatives in education, but do not criticize until I see it or put it in action. (I also learned the lesson years ago when I said Twitter was useless in the first place.)

Thanks for the post. Your learning space is your learning space. Do whatever you need to do to get better.

G

Inschoinschool.wordpress.com

My thinking is much along the same as George's. I'm not sure that flipping is such a great idea, but I keep reading up on it and seeing what others are doing and looking to be convinced that it's a good idea. My biggest hesitation is that it irks me as being teacher-centric in a difference space. I'm aware that this view is probably myopic, but flipping doesn't seem to fit with the PBL/inquiry approach that I'm looking to develop further in my class. Perhaps I'll be convinced some time.

Back to your main idea of blocking though, I think there absolutely comes a point where you have to un-friend/un-follow/block people. When your goal is to collaborate in online spaces, there needs to be a constructive approach. Flamers, nay-sayers and haters aren't building anything and aren't online for the same purposes as we are. I don't think there should be any hesitation from blocking them; their places can be filled with more positive contributes very easily.

Jeremy

Inschoinschool.wordpress.com

My thinking is much along the same as George's. I'm not sure that flipping is such a great idea, but I keep reading up on it and seeing what others are doing and looking to be convinced that it's a good idea. My biggest hesitation is that it irks me as being teacher-centric in a difference space. I'm aware that this view is probably myopic, but flipping doesn't seem to fit with the PBL/inquiry approach that I'm looking to develop further in my class. Perhaps I'll be convinced some time.

Back to your main idea of blocking though, I think there absolutely comes a point where you have to un-friend/un-follow/block people. When your goal is to collaborate in online spaces, there needs to be a constructive approach. Flamers, nay-sayers and haters aren't building anything and aren't online for the same purposes as we are. I don't think there should be any hesitation from blocking them; their places can be filled with more positive contributes very easily.

Jeremy

Gravityassist

Good article on blocking and I think its necessary when a Tweeter's Twit-blitz becomes a string of acrimonious invectives or something other than the issue being discussed. I've blocked out of necessity.

Plus your blocking article helped open up some other perspectives on flipping which was interesting. I guess as an IT Director am trying to keep an open mind that learning occurs anywhere, whether at school or not as we position tech, curriculum and instructional methods. So when working with teachers who are wishing to pilot it, keeping an open mind at this point. I think certain environmental and academic conditions need to exist in order to be successful. Not for everyone.

MarkW

I've had similar run-ins with Conner and his ally. As far as I can tell neither of them are actually in the classroom teaching, though I could be wrong. Yet they want to tell actual classroom teachers that what they are doing is wrong for students they don't even know.

Conner's friend even argued that it's okay for them to diss flip teachers since what he and Conner are saying is 'true,' but that it's not okay for flip teachers to criticize them in return.

Blocking someone on twitter I liken to refusing to listen to those negative teachers in the workroom who constantly rag on students, other teachers, the admin., parents, etc. and for every positive solution you offer, they simply tear it down. Just like in that scenario, it's perfectly legitimate to say if all you have to offer is negativity and complaints, then I'm going to tune you out.

If you see twitter as your PLN, then it's totally your right to filter who gets in and who doesn't. You certainly want some contrarian voices, but only if they have same goals as you (i.e. what's good for students and conducive to a healthy, learning environment), and voices that engage in honest debate and exploration of ideas.

Thank you for your good, thought-provoking post!

Leslie_su76

"Blocking someone on twitter I liken to refusing to listen to those negative teachers in the workroom who constantly rag on students, other teachers, the admin., parents, etc. and for every positive solution you offer, they simply tear it down. " I agree with MarkW. We should behave the same way in the digital world that we would f2f.

CuriousTC

Hi Bill, I very much agree w/ the sentiments that have been expressed. We should strive to be open to having our opinions & views questioned by those who disagree with us. Their differing perspective can help us grow. I find myself becoming concerned when I see or hear education professionals who only want to listen to people who support their view. I don't believe that is healthy. However, there comes a time when one may need to "block" another person from their PLN if that person is being aggressively confrontational (e.g., name calling or just being rude). So in the "spirit" of intellectual discourse I believe your blocking this individual was a reasonable action. peace.
PS I too, have questions about the "flipped classroom". My thoughts & feelings are mixed, but I will save those comments / questions for another blog entry. : )

Michelle Baldwin

Hmmm... I wonder if I have already guessed who Conner is, because he sounds like someone I blocked a while back.

i purposefully keep people in my stream who push me, and even those who anger me from time to time. However, my limit comes when all they do is attack on a personal level. It's not worth your time. Too bad he couldn't figure out how to agree to disagree in a civil manner. So many more options for learning that way.

Good for you, and thanks for sharing the experience with us.

Janet Abercrombie

I think it's as appropriate to block people as it is to not accept phone calls or return emails. You're correct: We need to hear ideas from all sides, but we only have time to hear thoughtful ideas.

I often say to another, "Tell me about that." I want to know if the person has sources or is venting. Then, I decide whether or not I want future conversations with the person.

With elections coming up, I have many opportunities to surround myself with those who disagree with my core beliefs. I only continue conversing with a few of them. At the same time, I only talk politics with a few people who tend to vote like I do.

The other day, I talked to someone who didn't want to vote for a candidate because his wife's clothes were too expensive. Had that person been on my twitter feed, he/she would have been blocked.

Bill Ferriter

George wrote:

So from that experience, I have learned to ask questions and think
critically about initiatives in education, but do not criticize until I
see it or put it in action.

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Im with you here, George. All that I ever really ask of critics of anything that Im exploring is that they be willing to listen with an open mind. In the end, a willingness to listen is more important to me than anyones position on a topic. When people are willing to listen, theyre more likely to spot the gaps in my thinking and to push in a way that might just help me to grow as a thinker.

People who dont listen arent worth my time simply because theyre not interested in finding out where my thinking is and moving me forward.

These are the kinds of lessons that I think our kids need to learn about learning networks -- both those they create in digital spaces and that they maintain in face to face settings.

Thanks for stopping by,
Bill

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